Like others have reported, this did not happen with old drivers, so there must be a way to avoid this behaviour. It would be great if somebody from Microsoft could step up and find out how one can work around this problem. I even would install my old driver, if I knew which of the 20 versions on my disk was the right one.
It never occurred with standard Windows 7 driver installed when I built the system. One of the VGA outputs is hooked up to a projector that is used only occasionally. When I power up the projector normally Output 2 , Windows automatically detects it and messes around with the display configuration. Specifically, it promotes the projector to 'Output 1' status, disables the other VGA-attached monitor Output 2 and rearranges the monitors.
Hope this helps as a relatively convenient workaround until someone figures out a proper fix for it. Rolling back the display driver also fixes it for me, so perhaps it's a combination of factors. I have the same issue with my AMD I am also having this problem and it is becoming very annoying. I think WMC is a great piece of software and was excited to see how much smoother and feature packed it was than BeyondTV which I was using previously.
The detection process I think sometimes is even throwing some flak into any currently recording shows, which stinks. However, its not too bad when it works, because for me, no resolution changes occur.. But the main issue is that now, about once every couple days, when I turn on my TV, Win7 does not even detect it at all, so I just get stuck with a "No Signal" on my TV.
I have resorted to hooking up a secondary DVI monitor just so I can use it to navigate to the "Screen Resolution" window and click the "Detect Monitors" button which then brings back the TV output. That is what I would like to see again in Win7 somehow. I can't believe this issue is still around Or at the very least provide a way to turn it off! So what I am searching for now in the meantime is a way to create a macro or something to do the "Detect Monitors" function that I can activate from a remote control.
Does anyone have an idea how to do something like that? Can I run a command line to detect the monitors? Having same problem here.
And when this happens, all windows go back to the first monitor. This makes win7 completely unusable with dual monitors. The feature is nice to hook up an external monitor from time to time, but NOT if you want always to work with two monitors.
We need a way to disable this. I got it set where icons and taskbar were on one monitor. When I do a power shut down and restart, and when the TV is on while doing this, my icons move to the TV and my taskbar stays put. I have to keep changing which monitor is the main to get icons and taskbar on the primary monitor!
Shutting off the TV, and sometimes my monitors all go to sleep! Well, I was reading all of your posts, and I've to say that I'm not much confident on microsoft providing a solution Everything goes fine, then, I decide to watch some tv. No signal. I have to actually open the lid of my notebook, go to properties.. Not sure how MS can't see the problem. And in fact, this problem will become more prevalent as more people switch to displayport, as I hear that displayport acts like a plug and play device much like an HDMI connected TV.
I cant get this set up fine but as soon as i switch inputs or turn the TV off it forces the mediaportal to the 22" screen which is in another room and used as the family computer.
This stops my daugher doing any work and disrupts everything, which is a terrible feature. This is getting extremely frustrating now and makes my choice of windows 7 a dealbreaker. I have a program that has a userinterface on one monitor and plays videoclips on the second HDTV. If I switch channels or turn the TV off, the whole program gets messed up and I have to restart to get everything working ok again.
By the way, this is XP, so it's definately not limited to Vista or 7. I just want windows to not react on turning a TV on or off. What I have noticed is that windows luckily!!! So I was thinking about somehow switching the screens so that the always connected monitor is on the secondary output and my TV on the main one.
Currenty I'm experimenting with this option. I'm guessing that when you do this, turning off the tv will actually put your monitor to sleep!!!! You will only be able to wake it up by turning the tv back on!!! At least that was my experience. Post back and let us know. That is on Windows Vista Ultimate By the way, there is no second monitor installed here, just the TV. I also believe I had Windows 7 32bit installed here for a bit and saw the same problem, but can't be sure about that.
I pretty much never shut this computer off, in case I have to work from home, but if i let Windows shut off the monitors, or if i turn off the monitors, or anything that shuts down the 30", then I lose it, and can only get it back by rebooting the PC, playing with the monitor set up, switching plugs around, and eventually getting it back.
I have another system at home, running Windows 7 Pro with an nVidia , two monitors, 24" and a 23", both connected DVI, and I never have this problem. This probably isn't a driver issue, because i have been dealing with this for over a year now, and stay up to date on drivers. This has also happened for multiple people where i work, and it's all Display Port monitors that do this, never DVI. If I use my laptop, i see both desktops. Then I switch to another KVM screen and the second screen stays on my laptop as it should.
I then have to press Windows P or detect displays again for the 2nd directly connected screen to come back on. Windows must somehow detect me switching back to the KVM screen and disconnects the 2nd monitor for some 'feature' related reason. Every time I turn the receiver on or off, Windows goes crazy, switching the positioning of the displays, moving applications and icons, and even changing the resolution on one of my displays to its "recommended" value.
I'm assuming you have two video cards, and your HDMI connected receiver comes off the primary card. Move it to the secondary card and you should get more stability - that is what worked for me with an identical setup to you. Post back! Someone else will have to try this with DVI. I am just another annoyed Microshit User, being fascinated, how long Microsoft needs, to support a workaround for this problem.
Easy solution as I thought earlier should be to simply avoid Windows auto detecting Display Devices. Now I know for sure, I was so wrong How can it be that Microsoft still does not react? The Company that want to be SO user friendly? Same issue here, extremely annoying. I have two displays connected to my pc, a 17" directly and a 24' through a KVM. It will then displkay with the correct resolution.
HOwever, once I switch the KVM to another computer andf back, the resultion is reset to x and I need to physically unplug the kvm from the pc, reattach the original monitor cable, redetect display, set resolution and switch cables back. Extremely annoying. Would really prefer to have a method to stop Windows from automatiocally detecting displays and setting resolution, having to crawl under my desk every 10 minutes is enough for me to buy a third monitor!
I leave my computer on all the time during the week and just turn off the monitors at night. When I turn them back on again, I find that Windows has shifted everything from my second monitor over onto my primary monitor. I've been living with this annoyance for a couple of months now. However today it went one stage further.
This is absolutely unacceptable. Although since Mr Sinofsky took over the Windows division, listening to and pleasing your customers no longer seems to be one of your priorities. This is also evidenced by the elimination of organised Beta programs and the sacking of Wendy Stidmon who acted as a diligent and highly effective conduit to the thousands of customers testing the product.
It's clear now that if an issue does not affect somebody at Microsoft, or if somebody at Microsoft deems it to be unimportant, then ZERO priority is attached to resolving that issue.
Clearly Microsoft's own narrow internal vision is all the matters now. And that is sad. This started happening to me when I ran my monitors through a KVM switch.
Turning off TMM did nothing for me. New ones are only 99 cents on ebay. The one that would make the monitor disconnect and reconnect every 60 seconds, had a bunch of pins missing. So check your DVI-to-VGA donggle on the the back of the video card, that leads to the monitor that keeps switching on and off, if it has pins missing.
I have a similar problem. Also, I have computer speakers running from my computer, as well as surround sound running off of my HDTV. Is there a way to have it set so when I connect my TV, the sound is automatically switched over to the HDMI out instead of the computer speakers? Right now I have to right click on my Volume Control, click Playback Devices, and continue to set the output that I want the sound to playback on as "Default".
The "Detect" button on "Screen Resolution" still finds the monitors, but now when I use my HDMI switcher my main monitor doesn't get disabled - Windows 7 thinks it's still connected, and leaves the display settings as-is. I would like to add to this discussion that I am having the exact same problem as the OP and I agree that Microsoft should be able to provide a simple fix to address this problem.
Windows duplicates the two displays and all is well. Problem is, if the receiver isn't turned on, or set to the PC HDMI input when the system is booted up, or if for some reason I switch inputs on the receiver while the system is on, Windows takes that to mean the flat screen display is turned off and the only way to correct it is to get up and go into my media room and into display properties, detect display.
Microsoft - either provide a keyboard shortcut for the "detect display" functionality, or provide an option to have Windows disable the auto display detection feature so that the display settings we choose are saved and maintained until changed by the user. When I turn off the monitor off, or the monitor goes to sleep Windows power settings , the tone is repeated as descibed in this post. I am only using one monitor. That's it.
The only time I get a sound is when the monitor comes back to life. A fix I can live with! Unfortunately the MS support is right, it's not possible to turn off the monitor detection. It's by design. Each video adapter when connected declares the number of VidPn targets.
Please note that most of the time when the screen is blank goes to finding a good VidPn link. I won't say how efficient it is, but it consumes a lot of time and CPU. So there cannot be extended monitor without primary. You can ask Nvidia, Ati and Intel to add an option to their drivers which will "lie" to DMM about the monitor device status.
Monitor detection is "by design"? Well the person that designed it is either an idiot or only has a single monitor connected to his computer.
Like so many other features, Win7 has managed to take control from the user, and create new complications except for the most simple of setups.
I believe that this problem WILL be fixed, but only after more and more individuals start hooking their computer to a second monitor HDTV , and realizing that Win7 is seriously flawed in this department - one of many problem areas.
My two cents Whenever the KVM is switched or the TV turns on or off, Windows 7 completely rearranges my monitor layout with no regard to how it's been in the past, or to which monitor now becomes the primary.
Furthermore, the constant screen flickering and PnP detection sounds are brutally annoying. Please, Microsoft hear our plea. Keep the feature, but give us an option to only detect new displays on the user's cue. It's input is neither beneficial, nor desired. Or while using the DisplayPort, press stand-by to turn off the monitor, then turn it back on: "no signal". If the primary VGA monitor is sent to sleep or turned off, nothing in Windows is changed the programs stay on the turned-off monitor.
If the secondary DVI monitor is sent to sleep or turned off, Windows gives the "device disconnected" sound and moves all the programs to the primary monitor. I suffer the same problem. The icon movement has gotten so tiring, that it's gotten to the point where I only extend the displays when using the TV, and usually just display the desktop on the DVI monitor for normal use.
My problem has gotten even worse as of the other day. Check this out:. After using the TV as the primary display for an evening, at the end of the night , I switch my primary display back to the monitor show desktop on monitor 2 only , and go to bed.
The next morning, I wake up and see no desktop on the monitor. Confused, I turn on the TV to see if I left the TV as the primary monitor, and boom, suddenly the monitor in my office becomes my primary display again. The TV is blank, as it should be, because I have it set to display only on the monitor.
So, I turn the TV off again and the desktop disappears from the monitor yet again. Presumably to the TV, which is turned off This is mind boggling. So Windows 7 detects that my TV is off, and then makes it the primary display?
I really can't wrap my mind around it. I really can't believe I paid money for this OS, it was obviously developed by a team of idiots.
I just did the removal of pin 16 on the DVI cable connectors to both my Windows 7 machine and Windows XP machine and now they stay on, even if I disconnect the HDMI cable in order to switch from one machine to the other.
Works like magic. As long as the monitor is connected when the machine is powered on it will stay on! I guess this is a bit like the early days of Plug-and-Play, when it was still called 'plug and pray'. In this case, the 'green' OS discovers that a monitor gets disconnected and turns the video signal off, but when you re-connect it, it doesn't know what to do.
This is just unfinished software. In my mind there should be an option in the video control panel that you can change from 'auto', meaning automatically detect monitor disconnect and reconnect, to 'ignore' monitor disconnect.
I am thinking of modifying my monitor, to interrupt the 'Hot plug detect' pin with a switch and set it to 'off', so that I don't have to modify any more cables I am currently connected to 5 machines. And when the software works properly one day I can set the switch to 'on' again. I've been searching for days now to find a solution to this problem and have so far been blaming ATI for this bug.
Now after reading all the comments and looking at how long this issue has been known to Microsoft I'm absolutely stunned, I am myself a software engineer and if released a code with such a user-unfriendly behavior and did NOT respond to the customer complaints I'd been gone pretty fast.
Microsoft should really get their stuff back together. Any normal user nowadays has multiple or at least a second monitors connected to their PC or laptop or why do they think low end graphic cards already have a minimum of two outputs and simply moving applications, windows and items without at least user confirmation is not acceptable!
I'm really annoyed by this "feature" as you may can tell, but this great new bug not only screws up my local applications but also my virtual machines. How hard can it be to release a hot-fix for this to add an overwrite feature? I've managed to resolve this problem at my place. On my HP monitor, I've turned on an option to scan inputs while it's off. Sadly, I get better use and support from the Linux community than Microsoft Its now July and microsoft still have done nothing to fix this issue Would anybody be interested in a class action law suit against them?
I guess in the end we should rest in the comfort that a small group of individuals that we will never meet are making a nice profit from selling useless crap to us users. I mean really, Bill gates isnt going to have time to address this What a hero.
It is true look it up. Yes, it would be nice to see corrective action taken with this. And i didnt clicked on detect ,i leave greyed out display and just select option: multiple displays:extend these displays. So now i can start windows with everything turn off and when win7 loads up and i turn on my plasma and sony crt everything is in place. Btw if your generic non-pnp monitor doesnt give you resolutions you need you can create them custom resolution with nvidia control panel.
I find it disgusting that Microsoft does not follow-up on this issue. You're right, there is no assistance from Microsoft. Heck, there's no way to report problems to Microsoft whatsoever. It's like they're in a digital fortress. They said they would provide tech support, but I already know there is nothing a support tech can do anyway, so what's the point?
Yes, I still find that if I turn off my Plasma whether my wife was watching cable, or I'm using it as a 2nd monitor makes no difference , my PC automatically detects that the plasma has turned off, and sets the Plasma to my primary.
Solution: I have to unplug my TV when not using it as my 2nd monitor for playing tunes in the living room, or gaming on the couch. In other words, I have no solution.
So much for an HTPC. How can it be a Microsoft related issue when it works properly with old drivers and not with signed driver.
It would be convenient to be able to save multiple configurations as now when I turn the CRT monitor off then back on, the display's are probed again, my LCD is disconnected via software and the primary display is set to the CRT. Could it be that windows is not probing for non-plug and play monitors, what tells windows the devices to probe, the driver files for said device. It must be a driver issue, something is now unsupported by the vendors, they are basically telling us to go buy the latest stuff and it will work again, simply not a good enough solution.
There is no method in NVidia control panel to detect the displays when setting up multiple desktops but windows DOES provide this option, I simply click 'detect' and presto my LCD comes back to life. The most frustrating aspect of this is that as I often am gaming i move my task bar to the second display so I can see activity other applications, any time the displays are probed and reset every windows container is set back to monitor 1.
This could be handy if you use a laptop and a docking station and possibly for cinema allowing a monitor for preparation which can be deactivated while showing a movie but these are not the main uses for computers. Microsoft could provide an option to save and reset all containers display area but seriously the NVidia control panel doesn't even detect the changes to the monitors where windows does.
It's convenient to blame Microsoft however they are only providing the platform on which all devices and applications communicate with each other, some people may need to Google "What is an Operating System" before making judgements. Why ask Ati etc. It may work for some practical applications but not for everyone, and the number is growing as more and more people use displayport and hdmi.
Sounds to me like they just missed the option when implementing displayport and didnt realize people cared about this It's also weird that it has been more then a year without a solution. Well maybe not weird, just very very bad. I found a solution!
Switch to Linux. I have a KVM and every time I switch from one machine to another I am forced to return to the Mac Mini computer, turn on the Dell monitor, change Windows Media Center application from full-screen to windowed, move it to the TV via the extended desktop , then maximize to full-screen. This worked perfectly. Im just relieved that i managed to find this thread amongst world wide haystack. I have been using dell monitor as primary and panasonic plasma as secondary through hdmi for 6 months without any display issues.
But since i have upgraded my av equipment to a receiver which allows standby pass through, all hell has broken loose with this annoying bug.
Everytime i intiate pass through or switch off the plasma the secondary screen jumps onto primary. Weirdly this has only started happening today, i have had the receiver for two days. Yesterday i was having unplugged connection issues whenever going into standby pass through, but seems like computer has escalated the problem as i cant work on the primary unless i have the secondary disabled from nvidia program.
It is obvious from reading the posts here that pc is thinking of display being turned off when receiver turns off for a split second going into pass through. I've been using this for a few months now since I found that workaround. I'm using Win 7 pro and the TMM just simply is non existent on my system.
When I switch back to my computer, Windows 7 says "Oh I forgot what the monitor is over there! How stupid! Are you guys that BENT on pissing off your customers?
Do you guys sit around and think and invent ways to be smart and stupid at the same time?! For context, I am the president of a small software development company four employees and am it's chief developer. We are a Microsoft partner. That's a "desktop" consisting of over 8 million pixels x total. I thought I'd be in "fat city. It's just not acceptable.
FYI, I want both monitors to display in extended desktop mode all day every workday, and without exception.
In other words, there is no switching around, back-and-forth. Surely, this cannot be too much to ask. It was a cinch to install, and so far works perfectly for me. One easy hotkey combo puts both monitors to sleep, yet without making Windows think that either is off or gone. By moving the mouse I wake them, right back into the state I expect.
I'll simply use this instead of actually turning them off. So far, this utility is truly working for me, and working well. I don't always like to keep each of my regular apps open, but I like each to normally be in a particular place across the broad expanse of my huge "desktop" , and sized in a particular way.
This will make it much nicer every time each is re-opened. It will also make getting back to where I want to be somewhat easier for what will now be the fewer occasions when my monitors are truly de-powered. Your problem is a pretty common one for me. For example, if IE is open on the secondary display that is turned off, try the following: single left click on the IE icon on the desktop. This will activate the IE window which you can't see.
Then use the above keystroke combination, and that will move the IE window onto your open monitor. You can use left or right arrow depending on which way you need to move the window. I believe your situation is precisely what Microsoft sought to address by creating the "feature" everyone else here is complaining about. It raises the point that the feature was driven by perfectly good intentions.
Regardless, you should note that the "feature" only comes into play when you are using a display connection method that feeds info back to the computer regarding what is connected evidently, the two such "pass-back" methods are Display Port and HDMI. But, back to the subject of Microsoft's virtue. We should all give people there credit for the fact they were seeking to ameliorate the frustration of folks involved with eLohrs' particular usage dynamic.
As a developer, I've been in the situation myself a million times. When seeking to help users in one dynamic, I mess up things for users in another. It's very tough to avoid. However, when I discover I've done it, I redress, and quickly. It is not virtuous of Microsoft that they've been so horribly slow on this. So I again raise my plea. I'd rather not use VGA, but if it solves the problem, I would.
This is not a good answer, Ronnie! I've spent the better part of an hour researching what I can do to solve this. If only I could manually pick a resolution as I used to in XP, this problem wouldn't exist. As usual, new Windows OS means less freedom for your users.
To complicate the situation even more, my TV has autodetect that can't be switched off so both machines just sit there flickering for several minutes unless I unplug the VGA cable. So, Ronnie, please allow your paying customers to correctly connect their TVs or extra monitors to their computers.
We need a "Disable auto-detect" feature or at least a registry fix. More than retarded, it is actaully a showstopper for professional folks. I noticed that if windows are minimized when my displayport monitor is turned off and they are not restored until the displayport monitor is turned back on, they restore as if the monitor was never lost as a display device.
Hi, the problem is that some basic video cards like Intel just don't deal well with EDID comunication protocol with monitor. I had tried alot of settings but nothing worked. Office Office Exchange Server. Not an IT pro? Windows Client.
Sign in. United States English. Ask a question. Quick access. Search related threads. Remove From My Forums. Asked by:. Archived Forums. Windows 7 Miscellaneous. Use this forum to discuss miscellaneous issues that cannot be covered in any other Windows 7 forum. Sign in to vote. Friday, September 13, PM. Then r estart the system It seems weird, but as I said, it did work for me. Saturday, September 21, PM. As Oleost said, the thread quoted at the top of this page should not have been closed because has not been answered.
There are many people suffering from the same silly thing, so we will carry on here. I am running Windows 8. When my display wakes up after being turned off by Windows or by me togging the power, all open windows are reduces in size and moved to the top left of the screen - very annoying. From the internet I see that many people suffer from the same thing. The computer and the display both have a spare analog socket, so I connected these with the appropriate cable.
Device Manager reports that I have 2 Viewsonic sceens attached. I set them up so that one is a copy of the other, and my problem is gone! Wednesday, November 6, AM. The best way to start is to perform the troubleshooting steps in Solution One. If it does not resolve the issue, only then move to Solution two.
Windows will now search for drive online. In most cases, Windows fails to find the right driver. In that case, you need to try another way to update display drivers. Driver update software such DriverDownloader can update your monitor drivers with just a few clicks. This tool is very easy to install and use. Start Download. You can select, either. Enable a device Disable a device Membership in the local Administrators group, or equivalent, is the minimum required to complete this procedure.
Right-click the device you want, and then click Enable. Enable will only be listed if the device is disabled. Some devices cannot be disabled, such as devices for disk drives and processors.
Right-click the specific device you want, and then click Disable. Important If you disable a device that is required to start the system, such as your hard disk drive then your system might not start successfully.
0コメント